<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>danwin.com &#187; password</title>
	<atom:link href="https://danwin.com/tag/password/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://danwin.com</link>
	<description>Words, photos, and code by Dan Nguyen. The &#039;g&#039; is mostly silent.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:29:57 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en-US</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.39</generator>
	<item>
		<title>American Express&#8217;s Security Problem: Awful password system</title>
		<link>https://danwin.com/2010/01/american-expresss-security-problem-awful-password-system/</link>
		<comments>https://danwin.com/2010/01/american-expresss-security-problem-awful-password-system/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Nguyen]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[thoughts]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[american express]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[password]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[security]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://danwin.com/?p=330</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>The NYT has a shocking story about a man who accidentally &#8220;hacked&#8221; his way into someone else&#8217;s American Express account. Allan Goldstein, an honest man, immediately called American Express&#8217;s customer support to notify them of the accidental breach. He got a rep in India, and then several others who had no clue what the issue [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://danwin.com/2010/01/american-expresss-security-problem-awful-password-system/">American Express&#8217;s Security Problem: Awful password system</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://danwin.com">danwin.com</a>.</p>
]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/fashion/24genb.html?ref=style&#038;pagewanted=all">NYT has a shocking story about a man who accidentally &#8220;hacked&#8221; his way into someone else&#8217;s American Express account</a>. Allan Goldstein, an honest man, immediately called American Express&#8217;s customer support to notify them of the accidental breach. He got a rep in India, and then several others who had no clue what the issue was. It took more than twenty days later, six different American Express customer service reps, and a call from a New York Times writer for American Express to get on the ball.</p>
<p>This is the AmEx flack&#8217;s explanation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ms. Alfonso confirmed Mr. Goldsteinâ€™s story for me. She called the problem â€œan unusual case of two customers coincidentally having nearly identical log-in information, which led one card member to inadvertently log in to another card memberâ€™s account.â€ </p></blockquote>
<p>Nearly identical log-in information? So perhaps Goldstein and this mystery lady&#8217;s account had the same name and the same password? What are the chances of that happening?</p>
<p>Well, pretty slim, but not out of this world, thanks to American Express&#8217;s astonishingly weak password protocols. I started an account with them more than a year ago and was amazed to find out that I could not create a password greater than 8 characters. I just checked, and it&#8217;s no different today:</p>
<p><a href="https://danwin.com/words/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/password-amex.gif"><img src="https://danwin.com/words/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/password-amex.gif" alt="" title="password-amex" width="492" height="402" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-338" /></a></p>
<p>Not only is it eight characters, but case doesn&#8217;t matter, and non-alphanumeric characters don&#8217;t work:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Your Password should:</p>
<p>    * Contain 6 to 8 characters &#8211; at least one letter and one number (not case sensitive)<br />
    * Contain no spaces or special characters (e.g., &#038;, >, *, $, @)<br />
    * Be different from your User ID and your last Password</p></blockquote>
<p>Is there any other major online service today that has such a primitive, limited space for passwords? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Password_cracking#Early_Unix_password_vulnerability">Eight alphanumeric characters was considered good enough back in the <strong>1970s</strong>.</a> Think about it; <strong>even your MySpace account has stronger security than your $10,000-limit credit card</strong> (ok, don&#8217;t know that for sure&#8230;it&#8217;s been awhile since I had a MySpace account).</p>
<p>Coincidentally, this week the NYT had a story about weak passwords, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/technology/21password.html">from a security analysis of the 32 million passwords stolen from the idiots at RockYou</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the idealized world championed by security specialists, people would have different passwords for every Web site they visit and store them in their head or, if absolutely necessary, on a piece of paper.</p>
<p>But bowing to the reality of our overcrowded brains, the experts suggest that everyone choose at least two different passwords â€”<strong> a complex one for Web sites were security is vital, such as banks and e-mail</strong>, and a simpler one for places where the stakes are lower, such as social networking and entertainment sites.</p>
<p>Mr. Moss relies on passwords at least 12 characters long, figuring that those make him a more difficult target than the millions of people who choose five- and six-character passwords.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem with an eight-character alphanumeric password limit is that not only is there a limited choice of passwords, but you have less room to make easy-to-remember-but-secure passwords. For example, I&#8217;ve used phrases from favorite stories and songs. Something like: &#8220;itwastheBestOfTim3$&#8221; (this is not particularly secure, since it&#8217;s a composition of dictionary words, but you get the idea). So even though there is room for hundreds of billions of password combo&#8230;that space is only helpful if human beings can be relied on to generate random strings for passwords. The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/technology/21password.html">above NYT article suggests they can&#8217;t</a>&#8230;so Joe Average, instead of being able to make up something like Password123456!, is limited by AmEx to Passwrd1. Neither is a very strong password, but there&#8217;s a chance for many more coincidental collisions in the latter case.</p>
<p>The terrible customer service that Mr. Goldstein experienced is galling&#8230;but the root of the problem, assuming the flack&#8217;s explanation is correct, is AmEx&#8217;s antiquated password-storage system. I hope they don&#8217;t keep it in plaintext, <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rockyou_hacker_30_of_sites_store_plain_text_passwords.php">as the security-lax folks at RockYou did</a>.</p>
<p>Snowulf <a href="http://snowulf.com/index.php?/archives/431-Password-Security-Or-Lack-There-Of.html">wrote about this back in <strong>2007</strong></a>.</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://danwin.com/2010/01/american-expresss-security-problem-awful-password-system/">American Express&#8217;s Security Problem: Awful password system</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://danwin.com">danwin.com</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>https://danwin.com/2010/01/american-expresss-security-problem-awful-password-system/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>32</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
